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Terry Oxford's avatar

Thanks Lee. I'm hoping there'll be a transcript or recording. I'd love to hear this.

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Kick Nixon's avatar

I agree Terry. This is something I'm very interested in but it is unclear as to whether the discussion will be available through Lee's substack.

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Antoinette Janssen's avatar

Self-silencing is silencing the voice, the own voice, suppressing the energy that wants to express the self, that what is a natural phenomenon. All in nature has a voice, from barking dogs, meowing cats, to screaming apes, singing birds, even the wind, thunderstorms and lightning have a voice,

When one discovers that the own voice is not welcome, because not parroting the language of the flock, and experiencing the pain of being publicly made ashamed, judged as the bad one, while having been honest, fair, angry yes, but for fair reasons, one starts to corrupt the self, by suppressing the own thoughts, and believing that black is white and vice versa.

One arrives in the land of lies, of fake people, and is so welcome, so beloved by singing their false melodies.

Till one becomes depressed, not understanding where tears are coming from, why there are no feelings anymore, why one feels like the dead must feel, and without energy, as if indeed dead.

Depression.

It took me many decades to get out of it, and that was just the start of a new life, because having to say finally again with the own voice what had to be said, because not willing to die again.

Loss of "friends", even family, being humiliated because of honesty, again, seen as the crazy one, the idiot.

It helped me to start writing, in blogs. The only place where I could share my thoughts, and to be who I am. Finding support in other human beings, who went through even much more than my hell. Like Mikis Theodorakis, the Greek who refused to listen to the military regime rules in Greece, and was sent in isolation in a distant place in Peloponnesos, Greece, after that sent to a Greek concentration camp, located on an island Makronissos, banned finally, to France. The deep felt power, born out of fury against all he went through, and where he puts musical notes to, verses from Greek poets, and was singing: I saw a human being who DARED to be angry, DARED to speak, and did not mind what others were thinking about him. He touched the hearts of many Greeks, who finally DARED to sing his music, and DARED to sense their own soul again, their fury. Their feelings of resistance against evil.

Against that what suppresses.

Families seem to be wonderful groups, but are too often worse than any sort of military regime.

I know.

I dreamed once that my lips were cut away from my mouth. So deep the silencing of my voice had gone deep inside my feelings, my soul. My family and other relations did this.

I came over it, and here to make this statement, to urge everyone who is doing the same as I did to listen to the discussion today, to read the book, to listen to Theodorakis' music, and to DARE to say what HAS to be said.

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Joy in HK fiFP's avatar

"After a year of tireless investigation, we have identified the military unit responsible, as well as the commander who led the operation that killed Hind, her family, and the two medics who tried to save her."

The Hind Rajab Foundation has filed a war crimes complaint with the International Criminal Court (ICC) in The Hague, on M<ay 3, Hind Rajab's 7th birthday.

Please join me in making a contribution.

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To know more about The Hind Rajab Foundation, there are a couple of really good interviews that Glenn Greenwald did on his Rumble platform, and Ali Abunimah of the Electronic Intifada, did with the head of this organisation, Dyad Abou Jahjah. It was very informative.

Here's a petition calling for accountability for the arrest of Ali Abunimah in Switzerland for the crime of speaking about Palestinian rights:

https://chng.it/8D4pkxPhWS

Please sign the petition and share widely.

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Paula's avatar

My soul is represented on my good for little car, where I display Palestinian flags and another that says "I SUPPORT PALESTINIAN HUMAN RIGHTS." I support all human and animal life but these people need special protection and advocacy. Could be I be killed for doing so but ain't going to my grave without caring and showing that I care.

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Paula's avatar

Wish I could join author, but will definitely look up both her books as I. am, more than anything else, a reader of what people have to say. Don't like in person arguments however positive they may be. Mostly because I am so totally against subjugation of world, wildlife, including horses and dogs and subjugation of the world and other living entities is what got us into this f-ing mess in the first place and goes way back in history. Alpha dog is what I keep hearing when asking how to keep this dog of war from biting. If the mass of humans do not realize their power and exercise it, they will continue to be bit all over the world and at home too.

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Bonnie Blodgett's avatar

Agree with the second half of your comment. How does that explain your reluctance to argue, even positively, which I call respectful debate? Do you mean that 99.9 percent of humans aren't willing to hear what you say and reply by either twisting your meaning and/or blaming "Alpha dog" (i.e., it's hopeless)?

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Guven Cagil's avatar

Excellent! And that's a decent price. Too bad I live on the other coast.

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Joy in HK fiFP's avatar

NYU Law School is telling student protesters to agree to give up their constitutional right to free speech or not be allowed to take their final exams. If you don't think this sort of thing ought to happen, here's a campaign to let NYU know this is not acceptable.

https://actionnetwork.org/letters/nyu-law-students-take-finals/?source=group-just-strategy&referrer=group-just-strategy&redirect=https://secure.actblue.com/donate/nc4j_nyu_students_rights&link_id=0&can_id=a707410023f29d0530df1e255f3edf18&email_referrer=email_2730578&&&email_subject=nyu-law-is-punishing-peaceful-student-protests&refcodeEmailReferrer=email_2730578

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Joy in HK fiFP's avatar

Call on the newly elected, American Pope Leo XIV to do what it takes to stop the destruction of Gaza, and the Palestinian people. Is there anything more important in today's world than this?

RIP, Pope Francis. I feel sure he will go to Gaza in spirit. Everyday, while he was alive he spoke by phone with the Holy Family church in Gaza. Let's keep the pressure on.


We, call on the newly elected, American Pope Leo XIV to do whatever it takes to save Gaza and stop the bombing, and end the starvation:

https://chng.it/gkvBfY44rq

Please sign the petition and share widely.

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Paula's avatar

Mind is one thing; soul another. Mind can be manipulated. Trust your soul, trust your instincts, trust your humanity ."pacha" is what I called my dog because in indigenous Andiian language it means "world" of which they believe are at least four worlds and those four worlds begin with "pacha". All that word means is several worlds; spirit; corporal, meaning material world. But Pacha means several things in different languages. I chose it because in old western language, it meant "peace"

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Paula's avatar

It may help to get her message out there if you say the titles of her books in this comment space. It ain't about money. It's about message, about learning/sharing what you know. Not everyone can be an Abraham Lincoln who supposedly self taught; autodidactic is what it is called. Why I love you, Lee Fang. It is something you understand.

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